Forum poświecone modyfikacji do gry mountblade

Beleg

You are right. But I needed to name these units, and that they're upgredable from Nobleman doesn't mean that they consisted noblemen in reality. And Lipek- in fact, they were organized like others polish banners, with "Towarzysze"(Camrades) being noblemen- so Tartar aristocrats were polish noblemen, with equal rights. But you are right, genarally-I will modify that list (Dragoon should belong to path of western cavalry- it's to short for now). Smile

You all should know that M&B is somewhat "simbolic", not reality-presented game. Of course we want to be as "historical" as we can, but some "unrealistic" things we must keep.

Zahir

Just another idea about "neutral - hostile " bands......

What do you think ?

Bandits - including some Infamis and common bandits
Mountain bandits - Chief ( Harnas Wink

) and our beloved highlanders-Gorole Razz

Deserters and Grassants - mixed groups of different soldiers, etc....
Tatar Czambuls.....

Also, with time and mod progress, i suggest to check Expanded gameplay Mod.... Nice idea of non included in any upgrade tree, neutral armies, spawning in different parts of the map.
It can be good idea for creating non - faction armies, like Swedish, Ottoman, etc, etc.... For beginning, till those factions become playable, seems as best solution for me.

Beleg

Alex

Good job Beleg Smile

Zahir

I still can't agree with Lipek upgrading from nobleman to Lisowczyk.... looks weird for me.

Second matter, in my opinion, Dragoons should be place somewhere else.
I know, that it was western style cavalry, supporting infantry, but it was quite different kind of unit than ritters and cuirassiers. ( btw, it's kinda weird, but cuirassiers should upgrade to ritters Smile

- natural way, when on battlefields cuirassiers seems to be too heavy and after some time useless in this epoque method of fights.)

Another thing, why dragoons - cavalry unit are upgrading to arquebusiers, typically "on - foot" unit ?

And to be honest, i don't like placing Haiduks between Wybraniecka and polish infantry.
Lanowa and Wybraniecka Infantry were "traditional" , old style infantry units, were haiduks, with time replaced them slowly as newer style of infantry units.

And last thing, in foreign forces, between Ritters and Cuirassiers i suggest to place new unit, heavier kind of cavalry and move this tree to mercenary units. But it is only me Smile

Beleg

I'm back after week vacation. Smile

[POD]J@$ON

So, the troops tree is done?

Beleg

If you accept my proposals- yes, it is done (Zahir dissapeared,so I have no one to discuss Wink

). But there should be also somemore trees, for example for "neutral"(from Zendar) army, but first we need to know something more about the story. I though about some not very complex troops- dragoons, light cavalry,maybe some registered cossacks.

Alex

Ok, i didnt see any objection so i think that we can accept it Smile

We can always upgrade it if we need Smile

Beleg

Ostateczne drzewka zolnierzy (final troop trees):
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Kosciusz

Beleg napisz coś o tych ukraińskich jednostakach - połowy nie kojarze w co mają być uzbrojone, kto ma mieć zawsze konia a kto sporadycznie... POnieważ chce wam wydać coś w rodzaju dema to spróbuje porobić takie jednostki.
Mam też propozycje zmiany w drzewku polskim - powinno być coś w radzaju wolontariuszy - którzy dopiero potem przechodzą w piechote wzoru zachodniego ( zgodnie z ideą zaciagu ochotniczego ) a ja mam dla wolontariuszy już fajne ubranko..
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Beleg

Co do wolontariuszy- niemozliwe. Wolonatriusze byli szlachcicami (glównie), sluzacymi zawsze w jezdzie. Piechota cudzoziemska natomiast prawie nie zwierala szlachty, nawet na stanowiskach oficerskich sluzyli mieszczanie lub (w tych czasach juz rzadko) cudzoziemcy.